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Occupy Wall Street: Recent Wall Street Protests

Postby TainanCowboy » Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:09

Original Title: Recent Wall Street "Protests"

For the last 2 weeks or so, a bunch of self-styled "protestors" have been loitering around in the Wall St. area of New York city.
Here is an entertaining video giving insight into the minds & motives of this collection of fellow travelers.

Jesse Watters Uncovers The Brains Behind The Wall St Protests

"The brains are certainly not found on the streets as you will see from Jesse Watters' brilliant interviews. But after getting some choice quotes from the anti-capitalist crowd, Watters did some digging and discovered a familiar name supporting the demonstrations."

Funny thing, it is the success of the Capitalistic model that gives these "protestors" the tools and freedom to stage such "protests" as this.
All this getting offended is more an offense than a response. It's a form of bullying. (And we all know that bullying only works when the bullied cowers.)
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Re: Recent Wall Street "Protests"

Postby maoman » Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:37

TainanCowboy wrote:For the last 2 weeks or so, a bunch of self-styled "protestors" have been loitering around in the Wall St. area of New York city.
Here is an entertaining video giving insight into the minds & motives of this collection of fellow travelers.

Jesse Watters Uncovers The Brains Behind The Wall St Protests

"The brains are certainly not found on the streets as you will see from Jesse Watters' brilliant interviews. But after getting some choice quotes from the anti-capitalist crowd, Watters did some digging and discovered a familiar name supporting the demonstrations."

Funny thing, it is the success of the Capitalistic model that gives these "protestors" the tools and freedom to stage such "protests" as this.

A couple of thoughts:
*Why quotation marks arond the word "protests" and "protestors"? The word isn't being used in a non-standard way, is it?
*Some of the answers were good. Some of them were inane. :idunno:
*Throwing in movie clips for humour was, well, humorous, but didn't really make me want to take the segment too seriously, either.
*I've seen clips from Tea Party demonstrations that were equally cringe-worthy, but it's my impression that that some of their concerns are legitimate and worthy of being addressed. Is it possible that the same situation exists here? Just an idea. :idunno:
*I don't believe that human rights, including the right to protest, and capitalism are necessarily linked. Taiwan had a good capitalist system in place for decades before protests were allowed. Present-day China is another example of capitalism and human rights not progressing at an equal pace.
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Re: Recent Wall Street "Protests"

Postby TainanCowboy » Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:01

*I've seen clips from Tea Party demonstrations that were equally cringe-worthy, ..."


Quite possible, editing is a skilled art in the political dialogue.
Would you happen to have a link to examples such as you describe?

As to the ""'s...its because I think they are silly people. Their "protests" are silly examples of too much spare time, too little knowledge and too much privilege afforded to them by the systems they "protest."

I have seen true protestors - Mother in Peru protesting the disappeared for example - and I hardly regards these as worthy of the equivalent respect.

Just my opinion...$02 and all that.
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Re: Recent Wall Street "Protests"

Postby Lili » Sun Oct 02, 2011 16:41

Ahhhh, my friend and I were just Skyp-ing about these idiots and how we can get a good laugh out from watching clips of the police cracking their skulls. (Though the pepper spraying women was disturbing...)
NYPD for life!

We can't stand knee-jerk hippies... if my above statement didn't make that sentiment clear.
They destroy the opportunities for those with real grievances to be heard and undermine the efforts of educated and valid agenda-driven intellectuals seeking meaningful change.


Oh, and apparently there are topless women as well milling about "protesting". Yes. Saggy hippy boobies for everyone to enjoy. *gag*

In addition: I woke up to the NYT feature story of about 400 people getting arrested for blocking traffic on the Brooklyn Bridge "protesting". Great. So the hippy can get his hard-on by feeling he's "bringing power to the people" but he's probably jsut caused several hundred hard-working people to be late to work (which must be absolutely nerve-wracking in this economy) or late to some other important event. Maybe someone was sick in one of the cars, or a father-to-be is trying to get to the hospital where his wife is about to give birth. Or hell, maybe an ambulance was ON the bridge! Who knows?!
Inconsiderate, selfish assholes. I hope their bail is decided based on the potential grievances of the people who were inconvenienced on the bridge.
But then again, they'd probably just scream "OPPRESSION OF FREE SPEECH!!!lsdkjfkjelfk!!!@!!!". :eek: :facepalm:
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Re: Recent Wall Street "Protests"

Postby cfimages » Mon Oct 03, 2011 09:39

Lili wrote:
In addition: I woke up to the NYT feature story of about 400 people getting arrested for blocking traffic on the Brooklyn Bridge "protesting". Great. So the hippy can get his hard-on by feeling he's "bringing power to the people" but he's probably jsut caused several hundred hard-working people to be late to work (which must be absolutely nerve-wracking in this economy) or late to some other important event. Maybe someone was sick in one of the cars, or a father-to-be is trying to get to the hospital where his wife is about to give birth. Or hell, maybe an ambulance was ON the bridge! Who knows?!
Inconsiderate, selfish assholes. I hope their bail is decided based on the potential grievances of the people who were inconvenienced on the bridge.
But then again, they'd probably just scream "OPPRESSION OF FREE SPEECH!!!lsdkjfkjelfk!!!@!!!". :eek: :facepalm:


You do know that those people were originally allowed onto the bridge by police, don't you? The NYT even reported it as such before quickly changing it. Any accusations of inconsiderate selfish assholes should be directed at the police or whoever issued them orders to allow protesters onto the bridge in order to arrest them.

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Re: Recent Wall Street "Protests"

Postby Lili » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:45

cfimages wrote:
Lili wrote:
In addition: I woke up to the NYT feature story of about 400 people getting arrested for blocking traffic on the Brooklyn Bridge "protesting". Great. So the hippy can get his hard-on by feeling he's "bringing power to the people" but he's probably jsut caused several hundred hard-working people to be late to work (which must be absolutely nerve-wracking in this economy) or late to some other important event. Maybe someone was sick in one of the cars, or a father-to-be is trying to get to the hospital where his wife is about to give birth. Or hell, maybe an ambulance was ON the bridge! Who knows?!
Inconsiderate, selfish assholes. I hope their bail is decided based on the potential grievances of the people who were inconvenienced on the bridge.
But then again, they'd probably just scream "OPPRESSION OF FREE SPEECH!!!lsdkjfkjelfk!!!@!!!". :eek: :facepalm:


You do know that those people were originally allowed onto the bridge by police, don't you? The NYT even reported it as such before quickly changing it. Any accusations of inconsiderate selfish assholes should be directed at the police or whoever issued them orders to allow protesters onto the bridge in order to arrest them.

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Yea, yea, yea, yea. I know that now, just like YOU know that now.
"Apparently" the police "escorted" the protesters (really, did not stop them from entering the bridge's car span) across the bridge and then "corralled" them into netting.
I could've just editted my post as new information came around last night, but I didn't. Cause it was STILL the protestors' decision to get on the driving span. Wasn't like the police went "Oh hey, guys! Here's an idea: March on the driving span! It'll be a real good show then!"

So it went like this:
Protestor: "LET"S GET ON THE BRIDGE!"
Policeman: *silence*
Protestor: "RAHHHHH!!!!! BRING DOWN CAPITALISM!!! REAAHHHHH!!!!!" *looks at policeman* *walks onto driving span* "COOL! We're allowed on!"
Policeman: *silence*
Protester: *marches across span* *noticies policemen following them on and noone thinks to say "Hey, maybe we shouldn't do this" cause hey! the police are "allowing" us on, so must be okie dokies!* *notices they can't go any further* "What is this orange netting?" *looks at police officers* "ITS A TRAP!!!!"
Policeman: "HAHHAHAHAHHAAHAAAA"

Devious son of a bitches. Bad policemen.
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Re: Recent Wall Street "Protests"

Postby maoman » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:53

Lili wrote:Bad policemen.

At least one of them is. :thumbsdown:

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Re: Recent Wall Street "Protests"

Postby cfimages » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:59

Lili wrote:
Yea, yea, yea, yea. I know that now, just like YOU know that now.


Actually no. The first thing I knew was that the police started arrested people after initially giving permission. It was only later I heard that the story later got censored.

"Apparently" the police "escorted" the protesters (really, did not stop them from entering the bridge's car span) across the bridge and then "corralled" them into netting.
I could've just editted my post as new information came around last night, but I didn't. Cause it was STILL the protestors' decision to get on the driving span. Wasn't like the police went "Oh hey, guys! Here's an idea: March on the driving span! It'll be a real good show then!"

So it went like this:
Protestor: "LET"S GET ON THE BRIDGE!"
Policeman: *silence*
Protestor: "RAHHHHH!!!!! BRING DOWN CAPITALISM!!! REAAHHHHH!!!!!" *looks at policeman* *walks onto driving span* "COOL! We're allowed on!"
Policeman: *silence*
Protester: *marches across span* *noticies policemen following them on and noone thinks to say "Hey, maybe we shouldn't do this" cause hey! the police are "allowing" us on, so must be okie dokies!* *notices they can't go any further* "What is this orange netting?" *looks at police officers* "ITS A TRAP!!!!"
Policeman: "HAHHAHAHAHHAAHAAAA"

Devious son of a bitches. Bad policemen.
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If you had any idea of what kind of organization and planning goes into a demonstration in a western country, you'd know that that is nothing at all like what happened.
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Re: Recent Wall Street "Protests"

Postby Hannibal » Tue Oct 04, 2011 09:19

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2 ... in-nyc.php
Andrew started walking down the sidewalk, unaware that he had become enmeshed in what would turn out to be a significant news story. Moments before he took his picture, Deputy Inspector Anthony Bologna had walked up to a group of young women and, for no apparent reason, sprayed them with pepper spray. The video has become famous, and has prompted an investigation by both the NYPD and Manhattan’s District Attorney. I can’t find an embeddable version for some reason, but you can view it here. At the end of the video you see the women on the sidewalk, screaming, while surrounding policemen look at each other with “WTF?” expressions.

Seconds later, apparently just after Andrew shot the above photo, Bologna unleashed another pepper spray. Again, there is no evident reason why. This short video clip shows the second attack; you can see Andrew briefly, with his press credentials plainly visible:

Andrew was rather nonchalant about being sprayed:

He stepped forward and photographed the scene, then started walking on a sidewalk toward University Place.

“I felt something wet on my hand and my face,” he said, adding that he was not sure who had sprayed him. Moments later, he said, “it started to burn.”

Afterward, Mr. Hinderaker said, he crossed paths with Inspector Bologna, who told him, “You better get out of here,” and added that he could be arrested.

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Re: Recent Wall Street "Protests"

Postby maoman » Tue Oct 04, 2011 15:37

After the dimwits featured in TainanCowboy's video, it's nice to know that some of the people out there ARE well-spoken people with considered opinions. :bravo:
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Re: Recent Wall Street "Protests"

Postby sandman » Tue Oct 04, 2011 15:51

maoman wrote:
Lili wrote:Bad policemen.

At least one of them is. :thumbsdown:


And they wonder why they're referred to as "filth!" Actually, I know quite a lot of filthy people and not ONE of them is even remotely as filthy as that dirty bastard. I hope he gets shitcanned, but of course he won't. Just a good 'ole boy, just doin' his job, man.
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Re: Recent Wall Street "Protests"

Postby TainanCowboy » Wed Oct 05, 2011 19:11

She should buy a clue...so much for her 'edumacation'...

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"Does she not understand that this quote proves Jefferson embodied everything leftists are trying to destroy? Or are we meant to understand that democracy ceasing to exist is a good thing? Or maybe she was trying to get to a Tea Party, but couldn’t see where she was going in the foolish Guy Fawkes mask."
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Methinks the answer to the question is...no...no she doesn't.
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re: the "quote"

http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferso ... -quotation

“This exact quotation has not been found in any of the writings of Thomas Jefferson. It bears a very vague resemblance to Jefferson’s comment in a prospectus for his translation of Destutt de Tracy’s Treatise on Political Economy: “To take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, -€˜the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, & the fruits acquired by it.’”
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Re: Recent Wall Street Protests

Postby Hannibal » Thu Oct 06, 2011 16:10



I may not agree with everything they say, and I probably wouldn't enjoy the company of most of the people protesting, but a lot of the stuff they're mad at they should be mad at.

There's always a better way. :thumbsup:
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Re: Recent Wall Street "Protests"

Postby Mick » Thu Oct 06, 2011 17:33

Lili wrote:Ahhhh, my friend and I were just Skyp-ing about these idiots and how we can get a good laugh out from watching clips of the police cracking their skulls. (Though the pepper spraying women was disturbing...)
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Let me know if you get a good laugh out of this one then, looks to me like the protests are growing as this article shows Wall Street protests grow after unions' endorsement

President Michael Mulgrew of the United Federation of Teachers, the sole bargaining agent for most nonsupervisory New York City public teachers, with 200,000 members, said he was proud to support the demonstrators.

"The way our society is now headed, it does not work for 99% of people, so when Occupy Wall Street started ... they kept to it and they've been able to create a national conversation that we think should have been going on for years," Mulgrew said



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Re: Recent Wall Street "Protests"

Postby The Social Assassin » Thu Oct 06, 2011 17:38

TainanCowboy wrote:
*I've seen clips from Tea Party demonstrations that were equally cringe-worthy, ..."


Quite possible, editing is a skilled art in the political dialogue.
Would you happen to have a link to examples such as you describe?

As to the ""'s...its because I think they are silly people. Their "protests" are silly examples of too much spare time, too little knowledge and too much privilege afforded to them by the systems they "protest."

I have seen true protestors - Mother in Peru protesting the disappeared for example - and I hardly regards these as worthy of the equivalent respect.

Just my opinion...$02 and all that.


How are they different from The Tea Baggers then? At least the clips I've seen, the "bro"testors are lucid and rational. Unlike those that showed up at rallies with assault rifles.

Just my :twocents: .
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